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Day 35 - Final Tribal Council.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:00:53 pm 
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Welcome everyone to your final Tribal Council...

Let's bring in the jury:

Paloma, Monica, Daniel, Naonka, Katie, Brenda, Erinn, and Yul voted out at the last Tribal Council.

Before handing over to the jury, I'll let the final 3 of Catalie, Alina and Lisi post their opening statements addressing the jury, then I'll hand it over.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:02:03 pm 
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Well, hi everyone. This has been quite a rollercoaster icon_laughing Let's get started.

First I want to touch upon premerge, but only just a bit because I think most of you are more concerned with the post-merge. Pre-merge, I was in a fantastic position and was playing a damn good game. I had Nay and Monica very very tight to me, and Corinne was with us completely. I had good relationships with the people getting sent off to Refuge, even if I did not work with them on Chaang. We still bonded and they showed interest in wanting to work with me. And then on Seuaa I had some iffy relationships. Ik Dan wasn't a big fan and I'm not sure about Yul and Katie, but it was there that Lisi and I really clicked and bonded. We got really tight (as I think Monica figured out) and she told me about her first idol the same day we aligned. We were tight.

The reason I want to touch up on this is because it was these pre-merge relationships that helped me get to the final three.

I'm not going to argue that I dominated or controlled this game. That'd be stupid. I was in the minority vote from Sekou to Brenda when at least there I was tied. I am going to argue that I was able to put myself in a position where I was never in real danger despite being a viable jury threat, despite being good at challenges, and despite acting mentally unstable for fun (until people told me that it was getting annoying lol) And while being in control is a good strategy, it means shit if you get taken out (Brenda, Katie) and the main reason to be in control is to make sure that someone else isn't and that they don't take you out.

So the first merge boot, it was pretty obvious that Cat was going home. The alliance of 7, at least from my perspective, was strong. That's another point I want to argue: I was the most honest and loyal person in this game come merge. I think every person could guess my vote every round because I wasn't being sneaky and because I told people the truth. But anyways, once Erinn gave Cat her immunity because someone told her about the plan, we voted Sekou.

Then the Paloma boot. I wasn't told about this because of my relationship with Paloma. But I told Nay this, this boot was a mistake. I think that the Paloma boot was the downfall for a lot of people on the jury actually. The 7 of us had a plan to take out the stronger members, and instead it came to take out Paloma. Whatever.

When the original Seuaa members minus Lisi went to turn on the Chaang members, I wasn't a target. A lot of people say "Oh watch out for Brenda/Cat/Erinn, they have connections" and I would smile and nod. Because while everyone knew that they did, no one really knew that I had very strong connections to a lot of people as well. And this helped me. I wasn't a target while my allies all were targeted. Monica and Nay were sent home over me.

That's not the only reason though. The other reason why it was them over me was because I was actually being honest and loyal to people. I never went against the 7, not until Monica left and then I had no choice.

The Daniel and Katie boots were idol boots. It sucks to be idoled out but honestly it's part of the game. You could make a very convincing argument that without idols I wouldn't be in the final three. Few notes about that. 1) The targets on the idol boots were Lisi and Nay, never me. So I would have survived. 2) Brenda wanted an all-Chaang F4, I am like 80% sure about that. So once Monica/Nay/Lisi were gone, they would have used me to flip. Yes this is a hypothetical, but think about it. Would those three really just make it 3-3 come F6? No, I would have been used as a swing at the F7. 3) If you're gonna say that luck played into a factor for me, what about Lisi and Cat? Cat was immune all premerge and if not for that twist there would have been a very very strong possibility that she goes after Taj. And Lisi would have been voted out if not for the idols, since the votes were sent towards her.

When Katie was booted, she announced that I was a jury threat. I tried to downplay it, but she was totally right. Paloma and I are friends, Nay and Monica were my allies. That's 3 potential votes and at that stage, that's a lot. Yet, I was still not a target. My relationships with everyone and my honesty with everyone kept me safe.

At the F6, Brenda had to go. I tried to get Cat on board and I think if she wasn't immune she votes Brenda, at least that's what she told me. Brenda was not playing for me to get to the end. Come F5, it seemed that everyone just wanted Erinn gone because she was a goat, and by everyone I mean Lisi and Yul. Cat/Erinn were voting Lisi, and I was never ever going to vote out Lisi at that point. She was really my rock this game, so that was out of the question.

Come F4, I was still a huge jury threat, but because of my loyalty and relationship with Lisi, we made a block so I was safe once again. Plus my relationship with Cat and Yul meant that they weren't going to go after me unless they were forced to, which in the case of Yul he was. I told Yul I was voting for him the day before the vote, assuming Cat won immunity, and I explained why. I know you felt hard feelings about the vote, but I hope you appreciate my honesty.

So that's my game. It's a fucking weird one, but it's what I did. I remained safe the whole game despite being a threat. I was never immune come merge, I never had an idol played on me. And I was never a target. I didn't float nor was I dragged because I wasn't in a huge alliance and was just voting with them while they took out bigger threats, nor were people thinking "oh we can take Alina to the finals, she's a goat." My allies are mostly on the jury, and despite that, I still remained safe. I didn't need immunity challenge wins like Cat, nor did I need idols like Lisi. I also was the most honest and loyal person in the game, second only to Erinn, who has shown complete honestly and loyalty to Cat. Considering how many flips there were in this game, I would say that that's something that should be rewarded.

This entire game, I received 3 votes. The first was from Coach. It was a warning saying that I would be the first boot come merge. icon_laughing The second was from Katie because she didn't want to accidentally tie it, so she voted for the person she knew would get no votes. The third was from Yul because he felt tighter with Lisi, which is understandable since they were from the same tribe and since I told him I was voting for him flat out. Considering everything this game, how fucking nuts it was, that's really impressive.

I really hope you all decide to vote for me. I have been waiting to play this game since I was DQed last summer. It would really mean a lot to me. Thank you.

Also I want to thank Jeff for hosting this insane game. This has been....something. And despite my emotions, I did love it, even if it did drive me mad a few times.

Anyways, ask away jurors. I'm ready for you.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:04:09 pm 
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I am sorry for the length of this, I hate long FTC speeches as much as everyone else does, but there were points I had to make and honestly, would you really expect me to keep things short?

To start, I would like to say I am being completely sincere when I say that I enjoyed every single one of you in this game, and all for different reasons. I know some of you don't think of me that highly anymore, and I can accept that. I burned bridges with people who I geniunely care about and I was well aware of the potenial consequences in advance to doing so. As jurors, you have the luxury to base your vote on anything you please and if the majority of you are planning on basing your vote soley on who stayed true to you or didn't lie to you in this game, then I know my fate may be sealed.

However, I truly hope that is not the case and my game and gameplay can be recognized.

I had to use my social game to build my personal relationships with people to make sure I was not going to be their target. I was a visible threat in this game, all game long, and did not have an easy ride pre-merge either. I was targeted on Chaang and was in the minority with Erinn and Coach after Taj's boot in Round 2. I was saved by Cristina and taken to Refuge and that helped me stay in this game when I otherwise would have been in the Loser's Lounge. I had many obstacles to get over and barriers to break and I used my social game as my biggest weapon to make sure I'd excel through this game especially after the merge.

At merge I was dead in the water along with Brenda, Erinn and Paloma. We were like Lambs at that point just waiting to be taken to slaugher with no hope of surviving and sure we would see a NuSeuua final 7. Then things turned around after Sekou's boot when Katie and I compared some notes on NaOnka and Alina. I had heard from Brenda that Katie did not trust them, so I used that situation to cause dissention in an alliance that was already cracking and it worked. Katie was already on to the counter alliance of Lisi/Alina/Monica and NaOnka and with more info, she offered to work with Brenda and I to change the game with her, Yul and Daniel. I personally loved this alliance and did want to make the final 5 with them. But things happened in the game that changed the course yet again and it didn't work out.

This is also another show of how I was playing a couple sides here. As much as I was close and loyal to Yul and Katie, I was also insanely close to Brenda and Erinn. And I was trying to balance both these groups of allies without having to actually take a side. But when push came to shove at Final 7 and Katie and Yul wanted Erinn out again, I tried to make a logical plea to save her and boot Alina. I told Yul and Katie that Alina was too close to Brenda and we needed to break that up. I even told Katie we should go to Final 3 with Erinn. I brought the idea of voting out Alina to Katie and she quickly shot it down, she told me that Erinn was a bigger threat and had to go. I backed down and agreed with her on her points even if they were bullshit, I love Erinn with all my heart, but she was not a threat to win the game, or a threat to Katie for that matter. And I know I played it off like I was ok with letting Erinn go, but I admit now, I was not really interested in voting out someone who was never voting for me, someone who offered me immunity every time she won it and gave it to me once and put herself at risk for me.

However, at the same time, I knew it would be better for my game if Erinn left and I even told Erinn that Brenda and I might have to vote her out. I know this sounds like a contradiction, but I really did struggle with that round and which way I wanted to go with it. And I also knew that if Brenda, Erinn and I did pull off the 3-2-2 vote for Lisi and Lisi left the game, it would not be the end of my game with Yul and Katie. I was focusing on a no risk, no reward type thing too. We could have recovered if Lisi actually left and my relationships with Katie and Yul would have been fine. But I was also very hesitant to make the move and I told Brenda as much. I went into that move knowing full well that if it did not work, the ramifications of it would kill my game with the others. And when Lisi's HII came into play and the vote tied Katie vs. Erinn, I knew I had to start planning and playing for the aftermath of that vote and I did.

I had to play good cop to Brenda's bad cop and I had been doing that all merge. I want to make it crystal clear that I was not feigning any of my anger at Brenda for that round, because I wasn't. I did not want to vote out Erinn either, no. But I knew that if we did, we would have made the Final 4 without a hitch with Katie and Yul and not had a mess to deal with. I started using that round to seperate myself from Brenda and not become a target like she made herself into. I know her outright targeting Yul and promising Alina 4th place to vote with us was not going to help any of us, especially her. So I had to use that opportunity to break from her and put on airs that I was not happy with her and would be willing to vote her out too.

At the final 6 I was still playing both sides basically. I told Yul, Alina and Lisi I'd vote out Brenda. And of course Brenda, Erinn and I were voting Yul. At that point, I tried to weigh out my options on what benefited me more and taking out Brenda by hand and leaving myself and Erinn in a 3-2 situation was not something that I could conciously do, if Brenda survived the round we'd be the final 3. So Forcing the tie that round was another play of no risk, no reward. Erinn gave me her immunity that round and we planned to just go to rocks with Brenda and I immune. Unfortunatley that did not work out, as Brenda was idol'ed out by a 3-3 vote. And at the end of that TC, I left comments for Brenda in my goodbye post to help keep myself safe going into the final 5.

I had to play into the fact that I wanted Brenda out and that her leaving did not phase me and I had absolutely no problem losing her. That was a massive lie on my part. I was devestated with Brenda gone. My rock and partner in the game was gone and I couldn't handle it. I am an emotional player 99% of the time, but the drive and passion I have for this game and getting to the end and hopefully getting this win took over, I admit that. And no one knew how I truly felt about losing Brenda. I completely adapted to the situation at hand. I know this might be irrelavant to bring up, but I think it has to be noted that I was always playing the game and keeping up appearences and my composure was part of my game plan to keep me in this game and get me to the end.

At the final 5, Erinn was voted out over me. I felt that I was really alone at that point. Erinn and I had been together since the beginning and I had no final 3 deals to speak of with the others. Alina and I had a deal to not vote eachother for quite sometime and now that we made it to the end and promised we'd vote together for Yul. In the meantime, Yul and I were talking and he did not offer me much in the way of a Final 3 option until Alina messaged him and told him she was going to let him and I duke it out and the one who wasn't immune was who she was voting for. He was pissed and told me if I won immunity or not, he wanted to vote Alina with me. I agreed to that and told him even if I was immune, I'd do the same for him and tie it. Obviously, that did not work out, as the next day an hour or so before I worked out the jury votes, I had also taken into account that I spent 700 minutes posting the night before and my desire to win this game came into play full force, and I love him, I do, but I just couldn't see a way I could beat Yul in the end. So I made the decision to vote him out and get myself in a final 3 where I had a better shot at winning the game.

There are risks involved with my game play in this game, I know. There is always the risk of being “exposed” but that never happened until the F7 and F6 and even then I bounced back from it. Another risk was obviously the amount of lying and backstabbing it took. I realized this could backfire on me because people could be very mad. I do admit my game was not perfect. I handled a lot of people’s boots poorly, and I apologize for that. I knew I would have to lie, but I thought it was the best way to keep me safe. I could not just sit back and allow myself to become a target. I knew I wanted to work my way into a good position – a position where I wouldn’t be a target and everyone considered me their ally and vote with them and not for them, and people also thought they needed me to succeed. I believe I achieved that.

I also sit here in the end without ever having one vote cast against me all game long. I have not been a legit target since Final 12 of the game and I truly believe my social game and gameplay helped me accomplish that.

By no means was my game perfect. I'm not claiming it is. But you're not here to vote for "Who Played the Best Game Ever" or "Who Played Perfectly 100%". You can scout any game out there and you'll never find that player. Your role is to elect one of the last remaining players, who in your opinion played the better game. I did lie, I did break deals/alliances. I do not think I played a “clean” game by any means, I know I didn't. I am not here to bullshit you. I got my hands dirty and I did what I felt was necessary to keep myself safe from round to round all game long. The only thing I can do now is come into this Final Tribal Council with Hope. Hope that some of you can look past any personal negativity between the 2 of us, and recognize the strong physical and strategic game I played. The strongest physically or strategically in the game? Maybe not. But of the 3 of us? Definitely.

If any of you want an explanation as to why I voted you out or why I did or said anything, I will be more than happy to expand on it when you ask. Thanks.


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Hey guys! First of all, I wanna thank everyone for being part of this experience. As much as it's just a game, we really do get emotionally involved in everything that happens here! To the hosts, thanks for putting in the time to organise everything, and to the players, I think we can all agree that in the midst of a serious game, there’s been many fun times.

My journey to the final 3 has been an interesting one. I sit here with one person I’ve planned on taking here for most of the game, and one that I haven’t worked together with at all! We’ve all played very different games to make it here, but I’d like to think that the game I’ve played has meant that between the three of us sitting here, I’ve had the biggest impact on who made the final 3 and who didn’t.

I began the game only knowing a few people here. I knew I could trust Yul, as we’d worked together before in Stranded with Rivals, and conversely, we both knew that we couldn’t trust Parvati and Cristina who had played together in our original season. Our first success in this game was obviously winning control of the tribe over Parvati. From there, we made a reasonably solid group, which was eventually broken up before the tribal switch. It was at this time that I realised that Yul, Katie and Daniel were closer to each other than I originally thought, and I didn’t want to rest on my laurels as the number 4 in that group.

So when the switch came about, I made sure that I also ensconced myself with the remaining players from old-Chaang, particularly Alina, Nay and Monica. I let them know of my position in old-Seuua, and we ended up making a really close connection. I also played a big hand in winning the challenges for our tribe which gave us the numbers advantage at the merge.

When the merge came, I was intent on eliminating the Refugees. I knew that with the old-Chaang girls on my side, plus Yul who I could trust, that I’d have a good shot at making it to the end if it came down to us. However after a while it became clear that some of them were being protected from elimination. Instead of Brenda going home at Final 10, I saw Monica booted, apparently because Katie and Dan were concerned that I was too close to the girls.

It was at this time that I realised I was gone from Daniel and Katie’s plans, so I decided that I needed to completely switch the game up. I already had two idols at this stage, so I used my connection with Yul to find out who the target was at the next vote. All he told me was that he was voting for Na Onka. I knew that if I was the target, Yul wouldn’t be told, so I decided to play both idols, one on myself and one on Nay, knowing that one of us would be the target. It paid off.

I still knew that I needed to eliminate Katie though, so I waited until I found my 3rd idol to make my next move. I knew Yul wanted Erinn gone, so I figured that the only way to put the vote on myself at the next vote was to stay away for a few days. I’d seen a few inactives voted out previously, so I thought history might repeat itself. Fortunately, it did.

I must say though, I’m still a bit surprised that Brenda and Cat decided to vote out Katie in the tiebreaker. That move completely isolated Yul and meant that I was now his only real option. I used the opportunity to pull Yul over to my side with Alina and offer him safety. He gave me another idol clue, and once I found my 4th idol, I let him know that I’d keep him safe. I knew that either myself or Yul would be targeted, and I took a calculated risk by playing the idol on Yul and bypassing the tiebreaker.

By this stage, I’d put myself in a great position. I knew I could trust Yul and Alina, so I was pretty confident in making it to the end. Unfortunately Cat winning final immunity ruined my perfect final 3 plan, but I knew I was safe at that stage, as Yul and Alina both weren't going to vote me out. It did mean though, that I had to make the hardest decision I’ve ever made in an ORG by choosing between Alina and Yul, but I stand by the decision I made and explained at the last Tribal Council.

So here I am! This game has taken many different swings in momentum and control, but I'd like to think that through all of that, I've been the person in the final 3 who's had the biggest impact on the outcome of the game, and I was the one who ended up in the best position after all was said and done. I look forward to answering all your questions tonight :)


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Thank you final 3.

I'll give the jury a few minutes to read that.

Now the power shifts from you three to the jury, 8 people you had a hand in voting out will now decide your fate.


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Oh and good luck ladies! I love you both so much.


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Good luck to both of you too. <3


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Thank you final 3,

Let's now welcome our first and most recent juror,

Yul.


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Hey ladies. I never really like doing these Q&A sessions so I'm just gonna say a little bit and leave it at that. I was (understandably) upset at my boot and I did say some things that clouded my judgement. So I just wanted to clear the air on how I feel. I can appreciate that all of you want to win the game, and I can even appreciate the occasional lie. I certainly can't claim to have been 100% honest, so I couldn't expect you all to.

Lisi, you were certainly the most loyal and honest of the three of you standing up there, but you played arguably the worst game - depending on solely on your ability to decipher clues and also luck in the fact that the majority alliance screwed itself over - twice. The general vibe at Ponderosa has been ridiculously swayed against you, to a point that I'm probably the only person who had your name on my mind. But your loyalty - which ended up being worth only 4th place - isn't enough to get my vote. You scolded me in Madagascar and Stranded for my social game, but this time you didn't have one at all and it's probably going to cost you tonight. Thanks for playing with me - and thanks for sticking with me when things were tough. But you didn't play as well as you usually do (See: Penny).

Alina, my biggest complaints with you have to do with your arrogance. When you are in control (or even when you're not and you think are) you become this really annoying persona. I saw it a little bit in the early stages of the game and then again around the merge, but I really saw it this last round when I left. You came to me and had the audacity to say you wanted to win this more then anyone left, as if I hadn't just sacrificed 4-5 nights a week for the last 3-4 weeks to participate in every single challenge and tribal. You said it was because you had never won before, but I hadn't won before either. You suggested to me at one point that I should let you win if we were in the finals together...at first I thought you were kidding, but given how desperate you were later, I don't know anymore. To top it off, our alliance only stayed solid until we got to the final four, where you blatantly told me that even though we were aligned, you might vote me out over Catalie regardless of immunity. If that's not arrogance in this game, I don't know what is. From the vibe at the jury lodge, you're the most popular of three remaining, but I don't think you played particularly well - like Lisi, you thrived a lot because of other people's blunders.

Catalie, I simply don't like the way you handled yourself. You played the best game of three of you and honestly, I'm going to reward you for it. You made smart strategical moves - voting keeping Erinn, voting out Katie, always keeping with the 'right' side so you could lose as few enemies as possible. Even voting me out was smart. But you NEVER owned up to those moves. I always hated how every single time you made a move, you wouldn't own up to it and you would blame someone else, as if you were this innocent angel that had just got caught up playing with the Devil. You lied unnecessarily a LOT and ultimately you came out looking like a coward. But then again, I'm probably going to vote for you and you're probably going to win, so maybe it was worth it after all. Maybe I take these things too seriously, less of a game and more of a chance to make connections and see how they last - I always get burned and the people that burn me always thrive. If you're okay with that, then that's fine...the only person you gotta answer to after this is yourself.

That's all I have. That's just my personal opinions. I think you all were great players and I think you ultimately deserve to be there...after all, you ARE there so it's a moot point to argue if you deserve it. Please remember tonight to take everything the jurors (even me) have to say with a grain of salt: you beat us and you proved you're better then us at this game. Smile and nod, but don't let ANYONE make you feel like you shouldn't be sitting there.

I have my preference on who should win, but I'll be happy no matter which of you take it. Thank you all for playing this game with me, and good luck. Sincerely.


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Thank you, Yul.


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I know you just left comments, Yul. But I do want to answer you anyway and say thank you for understanding why I did some things. I know it is hard being betrayed in these things and I have beatin' a dead horse saying that it was hard for me to do that to you, but that was the truth.

I know I told some superfluous lies and tried to be the angel while I was a devil in situations, you are completely right. And I know handled that wrong and I take full responsibility for it, it's just what I thought was best at the time and I know it wasn't. :/

Thank you again for your comments. I hope we can talk after this, I am looking forward to it. <3


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I don't get how Cat played the best game when none of her plans actually worked and mine did, but that's up to you to decide.


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Ok some comments on what you just said:

1) Yes I am joking when I said you should let me win. Idk I have a weird sense of humor but I never expect anyone to say yes to that. I said that to Lisi and Cat as well.

2) Umm....not to be a dick but...you betrayed our alliance at the F10 when you voted out Nay, at least in my eyes. You can't preach loyalty about staying loyal to me while not voting with me at the F10, F9, F8, and F7. I mean...I would have voted out Cat/Erinn/Brenda, hell I tried, so I can't really feel bad for you about our alliance of F6/5 getting beaten up, especially since Brenda didn't give me a good realistic deal (she offered me 4th place...I mean lol) which is why I voted with you, not out of loyalty to you. Hell I think it was you that said that you wer suprrised that I was with you at the F6/5 despite all you did to me....

I am sorry if I came across as arogant, that wasn't my intention.


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*monica not Nay sorry


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Okay thanks Yul. Next up:

Katiegoddess.


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